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PostSubject: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 07:51

Name:vlad
Age:25
Email:vkesler@mail.ru
Location:israel
In Game Name:kot15
Game Guid:6b3177a1f3dcbda5bd7aa8c1871e6f
Honor: 25
Use Teamspeak: No
Favorite Weapons:snipers
Favorite Maps:Interdiction, ES Border2
How long have you played on our servers :More than two months
Why I want to join Stealth-Tactics:
I know some guys and I will be happy to fight for your Clan


Last edited by }-ST-{-=Nemesis=- on Fri 15 May 2009, 12:54; edited 5 times in total (Reason for editing : Adding Poll)
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 07:54

some friends who help me to join the clan
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 08:04

Is anyone working on this?
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 09:43

Can we get a poll setup please

Played along side kot15 and have no issues giving a yes vote when i can Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 10:57

Probably none of my business but should we not have an answer to the question ' How long have you played on our servers' ?

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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 13:50

Only Server Regulars will be considered for application. The recruiting area is about to be changed. Recruitment will be from Invite only.
Since this player failed to mention how long they have been playing on the servers and I have no clue who they are I will be denying the Application Wink

Unless someone speaks up for this player of course lol Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 13:56

well,... at the looks of it, Rho just spoke up for 'm. Smile I dont play co-ops either so cant say much either.
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 14:10

Personally I think we should be looking at players for more than just a few months, some people can seem fine over a short period only to become a problem/not the type of player/wrong attitude etc at a later date, Auto was a prime example.

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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 14:18

Kot15 has been playing on the servers for a couple of months that i know of (i notice this has been edited in now). i normally play coop in the daytime and see him/her around quite often and for long periods of time.
Always polite and a good team player (english through text is also pretty good) i haven't witnessed anything negative with regards to this player.

Think most of the Co-op regulars will have played with kot15

As Spirit has mentioned above a minimum period of play sounds a good idea


Rho

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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 14:52

Yeah Spirit I do agree, thats why we will be changing to invite only recruiting. The recruiting area will be closed to the public, and only when reccomended will they be able to access that area.
I do think we have been very lucky with our guys and girls. We have been around a while now and problem players have been very few and far between Very Happy So we cant really grumble Wink

Anyway back to Kot Smile I was just concerned because I knew nothing about this player. Now that Rho has came forward and said pretty much exactly what we want hear. I will setup a poll. Thanks Rho Wink

Good Luck Kot15
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 15:48

cheers many thanks admin
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 16:33

kot15 Good player. I know its about a half. I am playing with it maps Urban Assault and Insurgent Camp.
Our server is playing too often.

Good luck to you kot15 Smile And yes from me.

Sorry for my English.
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 17:20

My 2p's worth:

Kot has not played on the server for a few months, this is his coop history - http://www.gametracker.com/server/217.163.10.101:1716/player/kot15/

From memory (without checking) he has 27 honour.

The application is NOT complete, name of other accounts & honour.
I can't vote YES for someone that i've only seen for a short time and don't know their history or what they say about their history.

However if this information was given I would happily vote.

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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 17:47

Well as I have never played with you I can't give an honest vote so have made use of the 'No Idea' button.

As Sol pointed out, your game tracker record shows you first playing on our co-op server on the 2nd May, thats only twelve days & not a couple of months, can you explain this? Maybe I should have voted No on the grounds of inacuracy of application.

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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 17:59

I play with kot15 different cards long ago. His was a different player,

but the password has been lost. So there's a new kot15.Bad say it can
not.
My word yes!

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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 19:28

Relying on sm's and Natali's opinion and after GG's on Border I vote yes:)
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 21:34

Purely out of interest, what were his previous account names?

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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 22:23

Thank you very much those who have supported me here Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 22:48

ok guys n gals, so I won't leave this one alone, lol, maybe it is because I have previously worked in security & don't like unanswered questions or maybe it's because I'm a nosey, suspicious old bastard but things don't quite add up here.

Sol pointed out that according to gametracker it shows kot15 having only played on our servers for the last 12 days and not two months as previouly stated.
Sm answered this by saying his password was lost so this is a new account.
AATracker shows the account has been in existance for at least 45 days. So maybe I'm just too cautious but I don't believe that answer.

When on the chatbox earlier today I asked kot15 (more than once if I recall correctly) how long he had been playing on ST it was Nata who answered for him, an answer that is now added to his application word for word even though were told that his written English is pretty good.

I have also asked that if this is a new account then what was his previous account names to which there has been no reply although kot15 has added a post, now I know that I am not admin or anything of the sort and the young man is not obliged to answer but wouldn't it help his application if he could provide the information himself?
How about previous names.
.kot.
THE^DOCTOR^46 ?
-=ISrAeLi&MAcHiNe=- ?
{GH}ANTONMEN ?

On the basis of my suspicions alone and that it seems to be clan members who are answering other members queries regarding the application I would ask Nemesis if he could kindly change my vote from a 'no idea' to a 'NO' please.

Personally I feel that things don't quite add up on this one although I could be wrong but I have a gut feeling that his acceptance into the clan would be a mistake.

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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 23:05

and
managers, I can show you a grave but your accusations are not justified
by anything more than a below enumerable Niki you are not my ANTONMEN
then my brother and he also plays the game at Evo competence. kot. then
lost my only nickname and the rest is not mine, and nothing to think
that I sew you feel sorry for that person who you do not know wants to
join a clan
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Thu 14 May 2009, 23:10

why
do you hate me that I did bad to you in all things I want to join your
clan to play with friends meet new people while you are on my runs for
anything
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Fri 15 May 2009, 07:44

Hello Clanmates! cheers
I played with kot15 on the coop-server a few days ago and he asked me if it is possible to join the clan , so I told him to visit the clan homepage. For me it is a normal application, but I don`t want to vote after a few games on the server. I can`t remember him or his new nickname kot.15 before he asked me that day. Maybe he played on the servers before, but I can`t remember. To tell the truth I am not the most playing clan-member Embarassed, so maybe someone else knows him and his previous nicks. During the time I played with him on the server there was no reason for a complaint, but I can`t give a yes right now.
I must endorse to Spirit, it is very strange if someone is not able to answer these simple questions on the application-sheet. If someone gets an old account and lost his password it I can live with it. But the applicants should be honest.
I wish you all a pleasant weekend, I will be back on Monday, because I am already somewhere far, far away (but close to Rusty`s house I think, or should I say near Rusty`s caravan lol! )
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Fri 15 May 2009, 09:20

...you mean carton box MG ... Wink So what you up to then?

- My tiny words concerning the application...let's not think too extreme about all this. Yesterday I was watching this old classis "Kelly's heroes" and I will never forget Mr Oddbals words about 'The Negative Waves'. Smile

Things don't really go as planned, it doenst go smooth. I suggest to all take a little step backwards,...give it some time,...and judge again.

Simply said : More time in order to get to know the guy better before putting him on trial here Smile

No harm done, no accusations,... all without 'The Negative Waves'.

Wink xx

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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Fri 15 May 2009, 09:34

I
am with you in part but disagreed on where to diva was the hospitality
I want to play for your clan, there are many good people and I welcome
the friendship between the players and how you play together and help
each other
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Fri 15 May 2009, 11:44

As a player who spends a lot of time on the coop server I can only remember playing with you twice, maybe three times. Ok I'm not on all day every day but I am on most peak times. At the moment I can not cast a vote either way. When it was just us two on the server I did not see anything to vote no, just (i felt) someone who plays like a 25 honour which there is absolutely nothing wrong with that!

What did concern (harsh term) me was the non existant dialogue between us, no "hi's" or "gj" etc. at the time I knew you where from Israel so I was not expecting any full length conversation.

I think keep playing on the servers and get to know us and for us to get to know you better.

Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Fri 15 May 2009, 11:58

Quote:
I suggest to all take a little step backwards,...give it some time,...and judge again.


Definitely agree with that. There is too much confusion about this application.
Personally, I don't mind kot join our clan; application is just a formality and for me more important is the way he plays. Don't know why he didn't fill application properly but I don't think that he has something on his conscience Wink
... Anyway, if there are any doubts maybe we shouldn't make any decisions now and wait. If he wants to be in our clan for longer it doesn't matter if he joins now or a bit later.

Cheers : )
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Fri 15 May 2009, 12:08

Thanks for the kind words HITwoMAN I promise not to fail those who voted for me, I really am happy to play with you al Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Fri 15 May 2009, 12:52

Well I think i have seen enough. To much Madness surrounding this Application, so I am Going to make a decision on it right now. Application Denied !!
Sorry Kot, but there are to many ??????? Nothing stopping you from hanging around and getting to know more of the clan. But as things are I am not happy to accept you as a member. Who knows you may get an invite to join in the future. But right now its not going to happen. Again Sorry Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Application: Denied   Fri 15 May 2009, 14:48

kot15 wrote:
Thanks for the kind words HITwoMAN I promise not to fail those who voted for me, I really am happy to play with you al Very Happy


Hi kot,

Sorry about the application and remember this is not personal assault on your character, you have to understand that when you have the ST tagg you represent us all, so to let you in the clan we need to know as much as we can about you, but some of that information we need is unclear and not supplied.

You can answer those questions if you wish and re-apply later, that's NOT a problem.

In the meantime you ARE always welcome on our servers, please carry on as you are and i'm sure everything will work out for you in the end.

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